The BBC is a wonderful place to be.
What do I mean. Well at the turn of a knob you enter Alice's sometimes strange hinterland of characters and their beliefs and whilst it would be unfair of me to describe some as Mad as a Hatter at least you have the full Monty of opinion, left and left of left, right and beyond, all argued with enthusiasm and candour but usually diametrically opposite. Is there a "right view" well obviously not in so much as 'right and wrong' seem to have such a wide basis, depending on a multitude of factors.
They were initially discussing Refugee camps and then turned to the "rights" of the Refugee and finally the big question "do we have any basis for our contention that being British is a definable identity.
The huge Somali refugee camp in Kenya has been open for years and grows with its own inhabitants taking on the functions of normality by marrying and having children who themselves grow into first generation refugees, a state within a state. It seems, far away from the war zone the people accepted their lot and there were few signs of bottled up resentment which we are told will radicalise future generations.
I suppose if you look across the world the rural environment has maintained itself not by being the answer to all things which is often the mistaken Valhalla of city life, but by being constant and predictable.
The answer to the question of the 'mass migrant movement' into Europe depended on whether you had an sufficient optimism, that people will, as the Beatles song goes "work it out" and the conundrums and Gordian knots of our limited imagination, which instinctively fears change, will produce a solution of sorts. The other side of course demand to know why we should be put to the sword as it were. "Fight them on the beaches" comes to mind and in those far off days there was never any question of not fighting for 'our way of life'. One might even ruminate that all those young men who died on the many battlefield must be turning in their lonely grave to think we are contemplating giving it all up due to flagrant criticism of our past and a craven willingness to offer apology.
Finally the question of what British means and whether the questionnaire which new seekers into this promised land have to complete has any substance, never mind reason. One of the questions was "what was the name of the first curry house in Britain" a give a way if ever there was one if you wished to point your stick at a specific demographic. A fact that the, dare one say 'indigenous white person' would be flummoxed to answer is beside the point and it reminded me of the test the Afrikaner devised to decide on which side of the mystical ethnic line you were on. " The pencil test" If a pencil held firmly in the hair of the applicant they failed to rise to the top of the class and were degraded with that strange description "non White".
Perhaps a controversial point. Of the participants, only one was a women and it was she who claimed the liberal mantel of let them, in they are after all human beings. I'm sure she would be the first to look to the authorities when things go wrong as over the New Year celebrations in Germany where a number of outrageous rapes were carried out by young men clearly far away from their cultural restraints and who, seeing so much freedom decided to have some !
Women on the whole are not on the front line when wars spring up and whilst they become collateral damage they are not asked to defend the cultural norms which this women seemed so willing even enthusiastic to risk.
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